• shifting through time

• the forest around the tree

• contexts are variables that are learning together

!- for : Software as a Conversation

Synthetic creation

• shifting through time
• no parts and wholes

!- for : IndyWeb holonic structures through mixing

• shifting through time

• shifting through time

sym

is a proposed short name for webnative constellations that facilitate p2p live interations

short for Symmathesys

Portrmanteau of

Sym + Mathesi + System

Mathesy

Sym

trans(con)textual mutual learning

through (p2p live) interaction

over the web

trans(con)textual mutual learning

through p2p live interaction

over the web

communication of interdependency

mutual learning

mutual arising

mutual recursion

https://twitter.com/TrailMarks/status/1455809360966389771

• for : Open Learning Commons

• Map should present to the mind not re-present help recall

• Prepare the feeling,augment tacit awareness and be articulate

Augmenting human inter intellect for symmathesy

Not presence but experience of explorable presentation extellect

The Data Layer refers to

• data itself,
• independent of where it is physically stored.

It is fluid and flexible, where any entity on the web -

• end-users,
• applications,
• infrastructure,
• organizations,

and more - can interact with it

that the Network is the Database, and in fact is the InterNet of Autonomous Ambient InterPersonal Intentional Software (as a conversation: Symmathesy Mutual Learning) nora bateson @jessitron

https://hypothes.is/a/LfiLpprEEeykWV8a3Q47lg

it is a matter of communicating Intent. Android popularized the term.Charles Simonyi created Intentional Software. Bought by Microsoft and folded.

I'm still only collating, although been following the rise and fall of Intentional software for the past decade. Not only as a fellow Hungarian, but someone who had been thinking about the same problem for the past 40 years! I thought too that language-oriented programming is the way. 20 years ago I realised that software is a conversation (mainly about intents, purposes and means, but lately I learned that it is symmathesy mutual learning. I also believe, inspired by Haugland's Mind Design that If you get your conceptualization of your intent eventually through co-evolution to a fixed point right software can take car of itself.

That is the case, as I learning from experiments.

https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?intentional&user=gyuri https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?symmathesy&user=gyuri

we need to deliver meaningful, purposeful, actionable data to the point of ... Ambient InterPersonal Intentional Software (as a conversation: Symmathesy ..

search : software conversation intentional symmathesy

Instead of curating Knowledge of Interest

the emphasis is on articulation, discovery and organizing web resources for scaling synthesis and symmathesy mutual learning trails and associateve complexes constituting a MEMEpleX

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From I to Person-centric Interpersonal Conversational Named Networked Autononomous Hypermedia Spaces for symmathesy and co-creation that self-organize into communities, forming alliances and beyond into larger and larger We with an eventual reach to all

examine - how = co-creative innovations

• in development at Symphonics
• SymphonyEngine
• - see = Symmathesy Engine. HoloSourcing
• - can work - in : unison - with - other : interoperability project

But a process of bootstrapping mutual arising| of

stygmergic articulation

symmathesy"> symmathesy

can hopefully be gotten off the ground and into the yonder of blue sky of wonder

Symmathesy

4:34 LISP logical language to use

https://hyp.is/3AI-QJwrEe2D5k9UW3mOYw/docdrop.org/video/cMMiaCtOzV0/

= LISP and = logic has one thing in common

= information processing language

LISP's precursor

a universal mechanism for processing representation of information

what if we include in the way information is presented clues to how the information is to be processed in a domain specific context dependent way!

We do not need programming languages any more

and in fact can replace logical mechanism with context/domain specific information processing we may ber able to preserve convey process intent/meaning/symmathesy in a much richer and powerful ways

LISP followed IPL Information Processing Language

The historical development of Programming languages can be characterized by a kind of growing amnesia regarding that origin

TrailMarks as a notation returns us back to that root

Allows information processing to go the way of improved articulation capabilities, Structuring for Interpretation

The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

should be eclipsed by the Intent laden Structuring and Articulation of Information for domain/intent specific Interpretations

Perhaps we need to approach it from the other end:

Devise constellations for co-laborative processes that can support the creation and growth of knowledge as mutual learning, symmathesy, where the stigmercgic "trails will never fade"

use word : articulate

articulate a stigmergic conception of social cognition comment :

but leaving out of scope the role of individual articulation the growth of individual knowing through mutual learning symmathesy exhibiting : bias towards cognition/knowledge without the knowing subject#use word : articulate

• articulate a stigmergic conception of social cognition

comment :

• but leaving out of scope the role of individual articulation
• the growth of individual knowing
• through mutual learning symmathesy
• exhibiting : bias towards cognition/knowledge without the knowing subject

= universal modelling machine

= engine of co-creative symmathesy

'cause interpretation is everything

attention and CARE

not the other way round

= claim = Wealth is most essentially knowledge

• = mutual learning
• = symmathesy

is =Symmathesy

venues for Sytmergic Mutual Learning (Symmathesy)

Mark the trails you blaze across the Web

with TrailMarks that enables you to designate the subject matter and qualify, characterize, aspectize, operationalie, interpret, contextualize, weaving associative complexes that scaffolds the learning trails, where everything eventually connected in explicitly name meaningful ways

If you would make it People-Centered where each individual/Communities of practice would be their own(ed) hubs operating as Autonomous Actors forming an IndyNet connecting People, Ideas and un-enclosable Tools and carriers that they need so that everything that is shared in the commons or privately would allow trusted ambient conversations, on the margins, or collaboratively, that are continuous without being synchronous, and contiguous with the entire scaffolding with which each participants contributions were erected, Where everything is evergreen,with verifiable provenance and recapitulable histories. Scaling Synthesis and Reach

you would be talking about IndyLab on the IndyWeb

There is a clear convergence present in the design space of possible Open Commons based, Peer-produced "tools to think with, together" to augment human inter-intellect in Open Mutual Learning Commons for Symmathesy an interpersonal MEMEX fort the Web doing the job of organizing the Net's Frontier as the Endless Frontier of Knowledge

all powered by Permanent Hypermedia Protocols noty Platforms allowing the Players to be their own Platforms

!- gloss : programmer's intention

• a desire that something be accomplished

• what do you really intend here

• question : how can we refer to Intentional Software on the |IndyWeb?

Intentional Software through Symmathesy

• restate - for : ISS

the software developer's intention is to articulate intentional concepts that capture the conditions for synthesyzing a new HyperMedia Space within which problems of interest can be solved, engagement of interest can be realized etc

The questions are b roader, more holistic system oriented like

• matters of cosmology/ontology : what are the transcendental synthetic properties of things and conditions that enable one to create a new digital space where desired intents can be realized
• workflows
• experiences
• mental models
• intent models
• goals and purposes

!- claim : - missing : Roam Ontologies

• core piece missing from Roam
  • ontologies
• NB : plural is right, personal
• surprised it has taken this long for note taking tools to catch up with and implement ontologies essentially

!- reply :

• great affordances, uniform way of handing properties and collections
• bake it into nice UX flow
• need to go symmathesy">beyond ontologies and semantics
• to intentologies and symmathesy">symmathesy

!- associative complex :

• meta : Deep writing powered by associative thinking

  • Capture your Associative Thinking on the margins

• universal concept

• auto-heuristic

  • problems define their own solutions

• eigenistics

  • pormentau of eigen and heuristics

• eigen-heuristics

• symmathesy

• mutual learning by doing

• software is a conversation

• wicked problems

• reframe

• human-centric ways

• wiki exists in multiple places
• local files
• static website

IndyNet + IndyWiki + TrailMarks + MindGraph = conversational wiki

IndyNet + IndyLab + TrailMarks + MindGraph = interpersonal collaborative IndyWeb for Mutual Larning: Symmathersy

Open, commons based peer interpersonal collaboration organizing and makeing sense of the emergent edge of knowledge

Where we as people can create the commons based peer produced evergreen capabilities needed to do so

co-creation through interpersonal conversations that are continuous without being synchronous creating permanent habitable autonomous digital spaces on the IndyWeb and contiguous with each participants MindGraphs along with the very tools needed to improve own(ed) and collective intellect and ability to work together

https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=symmathesy&addQuoteContext=true

where Software becomes Conversation https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=conversational+wiki&addQuoteContext=true

https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=%22software+is+a+conversation%22&addQuoteContext=true

\It is not semantics but symmathesy mutua learning

• use : TrailMarks
• as thought vectors for concept spaces
• Mark In notation for mutual learning (symmathesy) synthesis

scaling interpersonal synthesys

https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?thought%20vectors

!- claim : Trailmarks are but thought vectors in concept space

!- care about :

• ideas
• claims
• arguments
• theories
• findings
• support
• opposition
• replication
• lines of
• evidence
• contradiction

!-,missed out : concepts. mutual learning Symmathesy

!- concept : discourse relationships

• comment : "Thought Vectors in Concept Spaces" *plural is mine"

plurality of minds