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Nesting levels of intention
singular?
if transpires is a result of coherence
Buttoleneck we have very poor means of even articulating intentions
individually let alone co-laboratively
Capacity for symmathesy Mutual Learing is key

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definition: symmathesy
from - youtube - Essentia Foundation - interview - A neuroscientist speaks out on the hidden war on consciousness - Alex Gomez-Marin - a third is born between two in conversation
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shifting through time
the forest around the tree
contexts are variables that are learning together
!- for : Software as a Conversation
Synthetic creation
!- for : IndyWeb holonic structures through mixing

is a proposed short name for webnative constellations that facilitate p2p live interations
short for Symmathesys
Portrmanteau of
Sym + Mathesi + System

communication of interdependency
mutual arising
https://twitter.com/TrailMarks/status/1455809360966389771

Press the more button on the annotation u commented on and the Escher Drawing is there
Love this image AND the notion of co-drawing sharpening the hands out of preliminary sketches. The sense of mutualism is wonderfully rendered. An intuition from Active Inference that is the initial prediction of a hand (rough outline) could synchronize into a different pattern e.g. "misshapen hands” rather than the pattern of more textured, realistic ones. In other words, feedback loops can persist in beautiful or non-beautiful loops of mutualism
finding each other in the long tail of the annotated web

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Thank you for commenting
Let's hope we can continue the conversation soon on the IndyWeb soon will keep you posted here
recursive, fractal nature of
https://hyp.is/lxIozit0EeufJSNF6E-4BQ/docdrop.org/video/7hyct4vgK4U/
understand
relational
as subjects of human attention relations are related to
coummunication and their provenance and growth iof mutual learning minds and externalized MindMeld
the Life of the Mind
system
does not communicate
of simultaneous learning
A definition for symmathesy.
multilayered shifting through time
verb
noun
Mutual Learning in a Living system
person and collective learning?
life of the mind?
10 years later
going
It is not semantics
we need Mutual learning Trails
TrailBlazers for Human InterIntellect Aumentation
Indy Learning commons
Symmathesy
Symmatheticist in the medium of Softwrae
Let People do it All For Themeselves
Knowledge Commons
is an ide that deeply resonates with me
I prefer the term Mutual Learning (Symmathesy)
or Open Leaarning Commons
and vernturing to create the Indy (Mutual) Learning Commons
Will be rading and annotating with great interest
The focus is not on content creation and management
but articulation/formulation of ideas externalization of human peron-first interpersonal intellect individually and co-laboratively scaling autonomous Human Mutual Learning symmathesy sacling significance, salient synthesis and reach
InterPersonal Mutual Learning
Symmathesy
Software is a Symmathetic Generative Conversation conversence about and for augmenting human capacity for mutual learning and co-lab-oration augmenting human capacity for consolience
Here to do How we understand ourselves in the world around us, that's like the central human
task. Like that's that's what we're here to do is to figure that out and to act accordingly.
understand to be understood
Loce to be Loved
Amour Mundi
cultivate an interest in the things u must do
Learn what u need to Learn and Learn It
Symmathesy mutual learning
Symmatheticist in the medium of Software
we all are
Software design and development is a Symmathetic conversation not just in but through the medium of software
for
- adjacency - conversation - emergence - Spanish Eso - Nora Bateson - symmathesy - mutual learning
- to - symmathesy - Nora Bateson
- https://hyp.is/V3NAk4UEe6Z6btu1LIkA/norabateson.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/symmathesy-a-word-in-progress/
another
.neologism of the day
or
reimagining/extending the Mathematical concept of the Graph, beyond Hyper Graphs, so that it becomes a more expressive, capable, like Prolog did for Logic, do that for graph based organization of information and even beyond that,
All the important things that matter for computation had been abstracted away,
but our focus is the dual, interested in effective, nay affective constructs that can accomplish
something that is the closes one can get to Practical Magic in the medium of software and human2human and Human2computer interactions
representation/medium for managing/capturing complexity
nonlinear content in conPlexes
Symmathesy in the medium of Software
4
intentional dreamer in the medium of software
software is a symmathetic conversation in the medium of software
I would say symmanthesys where learning and weaving meaning and knowing supported by reasonable articulation of intention to the point of being real-ized in working sotware
all this merge in a Symmantehsys Universalis not to be accomplished by any one man
As Descartes wrote about his of Mathesis Universalis


Symmathesy
interoperability is not enough, This is viewing computer systems, the Universal Machines apart from the People the Universal Users. We forget that all these systems are supposed to serve us Humans not the other way round. We need to focus on human needs and capabilities first. Team human.
what is needed is inter-play-ability
Humans, Language Methods Artifacts and Tools! not Training in a mutual arising flows
so the concept should involve the mutual arising capabilities that are capable to augment in holonic way people documents and affordances together wo we have evergreen coevolutionary InterPersonal InterPlays
From this sweet spot view point that is just above the threshold of what is truly required everything just falls into place and anyone can figure out how to get there just follow its own reasonable logic to make it real
Many people are already working on it. Some call it Web4 or MAP - Memetic Activation Alatform. We call it the IndyVerse, the IndyWeb and IndraNet.work Spaces
One thing is common, that it all needs to be Open, Commons Based, Peer Produced scaling Autonomy, Trust, Reach Synthesis and Symmathesy (mutual Learning) and Augmenting Human InterIntellect.
Recognizing that Software is a Symmathetic conversations in the long tail of the Internet
https://hypothes.is/a/8F3DPCysEfCgqbsf-L70nw
The way 1 formulate/conceptualizes a problem delineate the space of conceivable solution.. If 1 finds the problem not to be ameanable to satisfying solutions 1 may need to re imagine reformulate the problem shift the focus to a wider scope perhaps
Peer to Peer trust is important but perhaps it needs to be anchored in a broader conceptualization
But how do we Scale Trust and Reach simultanously as we scale symmathesy nutual learning for Synthesis
Let the our understanding grow thorugh symmathesy and drive the autopoietic
means that let us evolve emergent solutios guided bu with the growth of understanding
Symmathesy
Hey @ConsilienceProject what would you all do if you had control of the Media? Ever ask that question? What kind of Consent do you want to Manufacture.
We are on the SamePage again
Your question articulates my tacit misgivings.
We are working to reclaim and extend ARC OHS DKR And it's Launch Community at a level that is required. Would like to send you an invite soon if you have the bandwidth
People that belong together need to grow together.
Will send you a reply here if you respond positively
Our mission is Augmenting Human InterIntellect local first Individual first Symmathesy in SymmAutopoietic systems
for - distributed social application
to create the Indy Learning Commons
so that we can start symma-theetic/autopietic conversations about the way we can shape our tools to shape the way we can engage in
improving our ability to improve our "mutal collaboration cpabilities"
first.blikk
as you attempt to augment knowledge graphs
with a view to be able to track its co-evolution make comparisons, updates, refactor, regestalt etc
1 would discover that Graphs as a means of organizing knowledge is not enough
the widely used subject predicate object triples provide a tesselation that is not as expressive and powerful that we need
it is not a wuestion of representation but morphic intentional presentation nd articulating contexts
secondly it is not knowledge that we need to be able to manage
but symmathesy mutual learnings
see IndyPlex, Universail Hyper Topic Plexes and Maps
for
article - The End of Scarcity? From ‘Polycrisis’ to Planetary Phase Shift - Nafeez Ahmed
gene-culture coevolution
adjacency - indyweb dev - individual / collective evolutionary learning - provenance - tracing the evolution of ideas - gene-culture coevolution
adjacency
between
- indyweb dev
- individual / collective evolutionary learning
- provenance - tracing the evolution of ideas
- gene-culture coevolution
adjacency relationship
- As DNA and epigenetics plays the role of transmitting biological adaptations, language and symmathesy play the role of transmitting cultural adaptations
for
- Deep Humanity - intertwingled individual / collective learning - evolutionary learning journey
- symmathesy - mutual learning - Nora Bateson
for
- adder - for deep collaboration - article - Co-creative Collaboration - Donna Nelham
adder - for deep collaboration - article - Co-creative Collaboration - Donna Nelham
- symmathesy - mutual learning - Nora Bateson
- https://hyp.is/V3NAk4UEe6Z6btu1LIkA/norabateson.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/symmathesy-a-word-in-progress/
for
- example - open source - vegan recipe sharing
- symmathesy - youtube - open source vegan recipe development
Map should present to the mind not re-present help recall
Prepare the feeling,augment tacit awareness and be articulate
Augmenting human inter intellect for symmathesy
Not presence but experience of explorable presentation extellect
>>> I was doing a search on autopoiesis
including universal virtual
trailmarks is not just
MUTUAL ARISING of networked people and digital info communicationation and infrastructure for long term symmathesy and the growth of knowing interpersonal inter extellect
This is the closest articulation I encountered including th need to merge Poppers's World 3 which is THE SYMBOLOSPHERE (NOT OBJECTIVE BUT EXTERNALIZED ITER INTELELCT) AND pLANYI'S CONCEPT OF pERSONAL kNOWING
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n a way IPFS going against the CAP theorem which says you cannot have Consistency Availability and Partition tolerance all three
As we can see availability is indeed very problematic. But as one of the great talks pointed out the more people join the IPFS networks availability will improve exponentially. In terms of ipns as a protocol when combined with dnsink seems to be giving us a pretty good availability which is a half way house
ipns://2023.indy0.net/10/hyp/facet/aiframe.html?params=%7B%22user%22%3A%22%22%2C%22group%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22url%22%3A%22%22%2C%22wildcarduri%22%3A%22%22%2C%22tag%22%3A%22%22%2C%22any%22%3A%22cap%20theorem%22%2C%22max%22%3A%2250%22%2C%22service%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fhypothes.is%22%2C%22exactTagSearch%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22expanded%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22addQuoteContext%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22format%22%3A%22html%22%2C%22separate_replies%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22groupName%22%3A%22All%22%2C%22sortBy%22%3A%22recency%22%7D
alternatively use this
https://ipfs.indy0.net/ipfs/QmYndAPr51AGzJQMMiu7EtYqWYP5nLbPNu9RDLQH87BrNh/hyp/facet/aiframe.html?params=%7B%22user%22%3A%22gyuri%22%2C%22group%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22url%22%3A%22%22%2C%22wildcarduri%22%3A%22%22%2C%22tag%22%3A%22%22%2C%22any%22%3A%22cap%20theorem%22%2C%22max%22%3A%2220%22%2C%22service%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fhypothes.is%22%2C%22exactTagSearch%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22expanded%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22addQuoteContext%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22format%22%3A%22html%22%2C%22separate_replies%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22groupName%22%3A%22All%22%2C%22sortBy%22%3A%22recency%22%7D
from : https://hyp.is/k9U7pPxNEe2ZYAf5Jr2Xlg/docs.ipfs.tech/concepts/ipns/
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Hi Gyuri,
>> update WikiNizer was envisioned as a vehicle of personal knowledge work that is federated in and anchored in conceptipedia a federated gobal concept space
ten yeas later we are going interpersonal multiplayer autononomous collaboration
symmathesy Open Mutual Learning Commons
The Data Layer refers to
It is fluid and flexible, where any entity on the web -
and more - can interact with it
// ad to that list
The IndyWeb as
augmented externalization of the co-evolution of human interintellect
meaning/intent-fully linked info structures organized by self-explicating personal first interlayed meta-structures
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insight
quote: Gien
date: 2023, Nov 8
all while search engines are deteriorating in quality we need less second brains more collectively curated knowledge Networks
Actually co-curated mutual learning networks Symmathesy

4 Ps for Cultivating Creativity Lifelong kindergarten
LifeLong Mutual Learning symmathesy&max=200">Symmathesy
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not just part but
there could be a whole class of universal hyperdocument formats that can be used to specify and generate and process them all in meaningful intentional ways
But hat would not be the semantic sphere but the intentional sphere for symmathesy
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definition: symmathesy
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Interpersonal
To get to this moment in the document, Engelbart had struggled past many requests for just such clever tricks. People around him imagined that computing would make this thing faster, that thing more comprehensive, that other thing more automatic. What people couldn't imagine was that computing could, if understood and used wisely, lead to a way of life in an integrated domain that could be more mindful and potentially more humane. A human-computer symbiosis that could be a greater force for good than we had yet seen. And sometimes that is indeed what has happened. And sometimes, spectacularly, not.
Nowadays, with deep digital and network literacies apparently on the decline, it seems that surveillance capitalism has become a nightmare inversion of the integrated domain. While most of us live our fragmented digital lives full of clever tricks that help in particular situations, sinister people who think largely about integrated domains engineer our entrapments, not the liberations Engelbart envisions here.
All the more reason to rewind to 1962 and read this remarkable document together.
Nowadays, with deep digital and network literacies apparently on the decline
What is the evidence for that? It strikes me that if judicious tags were in play, through a tag cloud, that's a subquest can federate with this one.
Now we are well and truly intertwingled. It took me a moment to work out that Gardener is not Gardner.
Hi, Jack!
Indeed! The Hypothes.is client should be known as The Intertwingler or something like that.
Pleasure being in conversations with you.
Hi Jack
The IndyNet/Web/Lab
that helps me scaling synthesys on the margins
in the context when I find something of salient and relevant I write edown the ideas that they relate to
in the full knowledge and expectation that soon
all tht would be surfaced automatically as I write not just to think but with a purpose
the Indy Learning Commons, indeed
getting close to launching a Launch Community
https://indy.trailmarks.co/ipfs/QmXxyw8fkG3j7esPRAmQC6pv3KydobAEfckJNppKMpmxdF/indy-2023-08-15/hyp/facet/aiframe.html?params=%7B%22user%22%3A%22%22%2C%22group%22%3A%22all%22%2C%22url%22%3A%22%22%2C%22wildcarduri%22%3A%22%22%2C%22tag%22%3A%22%22%2C%22any%22%3A%22Engelbart%20conceptual%20Framework%22%2C%22max%22%3A%2250%22%2C%22service%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fhypothes.is%22%2C%22exactTagSearch%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22expanded%22%3A%22true%22%2C%22addQuoteContext%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22format%22%3A%22html%22%2C%22separate_replies%22%3A%22false%22%2C%22groupName%22%3A%22All%22%2C%22sortBy%22%3A%22recency%22%7D
social search + socail annotations + interest based interpersonal social networks = Mutual Learning Commons
symmathesy!
Concept User Experience
Experience the web as an extension of your and the Other Humans' mind
The endless frontiers and growth of mutual learning symmathesy Indy Learning Commons
that the Network is the Database, and in fact is the InterNet of Autonomous Ambient InterPersonal Intentional Software (as a conversation: Symmathesy Mutual Learning) nora bateson @jessitron
https://hypothes.is/a/LfiLpprEEeykWV8a3Q47lg
it is a matter of communicating Intent. Android popularized the term.Charles Simonyi created Intentional Software. Bought by Microsoft and folded.
I'm still only collating, although been following the rise and fall of Intentional software for the past decade.
Not only as a fellow Hungarian, but someone who had been thinking about the same problem for the past 40 years!
I thought too that language-oriented programming is the way. 20 years ago I realised that
software is a conversation (mainly about intents, purposes and means, but lately I learned that it is symmathesy mutual learning.
I also believe, inspired by Haugland's Mind Design that
If you get your conceptualization of your intent eventually through co-evolution to a fixed point right software can take car of itself.
That is the case, as I learning from experiments.
https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?intentional&user=gyuri https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?symmathesy&user=gyuri
we need to deliver meaningful, purposeful, actionable data to the point of ... Ambient InterPersonal Intentional Software (as a conversation: Symmathesy ..
search : software conversation intentional symmathesy

for
reformulate for Indyweb
Scaling synthesis by connecting
for nurturing systemic wisdom commons
instead of worrying that
Artificial Intelligence will soon come to
dominate and govern the human world,
let us think of how it could help the human being to
// harness emergent Artificial Intelligence
Instead of curating Knowledge of Interest
the emphasis is on articulation, discovery and organizing web resources for scaling synthesis and symmathesy mutual learning trails and associateve complexes constituting a MEMEpleX
memetic engines
where as what we need is
see
we need : class-free objects

not dependency injection
// this applies to information per se leading to
given that we have a concept that is best referred to
as in-formation that flows in emergent human trust networks
that we fashion for ourselves as human being articulating our Tacit awareness
scaling synthesis recapitulating in the ontogeny of learning the filogeny of co-evolving emergent knowledge as hyperknowledge
scaling reach through time with the ability to find through global search work that mathces our current focal awareness and attention
in stigmergic symmathesy (mutual learning)
in a form that allows interpersonal sharing
to in-form and shape US

shape our evolutionary path
bond cooperativ I-spaces, without binding us
technology in service of life
adopt
invert
scaffold
ratchet
foster
// intertwingled propositiojnal trailmarked plexes
is something like an
inexhaustible to us and so i take it that the ultimate source of realness is some kind of
// mark the salient rhyme and reason
for
// trail cards

work with - partners to
The opportunity
this way is rare and valuable 🤝
/ resonate with vision task and mission of
From I to Person-centric Interpersonal Conversational Named Networked Autononomous Hypermedia Spaces for symmathesy and co-creation that self-organize into communities, forming alliances and beyond into larger and larger We with an eventual reach to all

There is more to knowing/learning that can be dreamt of in a semantic conceptualization of the task
Not to mention that it is not knowledge base we need in the first place
It symmathesy
https://hyp.is/y15NwLH-Ee2Upw-thChvcQ/nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/famous/there-are-more-things-in-heaven-and-earth/
We call it Open (Mutual) Learning Commons or commons-based, peer prodduced, Autnonomous Stigmergic Symmathesy scaling synergic synthesis and articulation
Use Trailmarks notation to weave your own conceptual framework around your interests and thought vectors in your own concept space.
Then engaghe in conversations and collaboration in m aking them communicable if nbot commensurate, or be able to highlight the fundamental points of divergence in view points.
examine - how = co-creative innovations
But a process of bootstrapping mutual arising| of
can hopefully be gotten off the ground and into the yonder of blue sky of wonder
Symmathesy
4:34 LISP logical language to use
https://hyp.is/3AI-QJwrEe2D5k9UW3mOYw/docdrop.org/video/cMMiaCtOzV0/
= LISP and = logic has one thing in common
= information processing language
LISP's precursor
a universal mechanism for processing representation of information
what if we include in the way information is presented clues to how the information is to be processed in a domain specific context dependent way!
We do not need programming languages any more
and in fact can replace logical mechanism with context/domain specific information processing we may ber able to preserve convey process intent/meaning/symmathesy in a much richer and powerful ways
LISP followed IPL Information Processing Language
The historical development of Programming languages can be characterized by a kind of growing amnesia regarding that origin
TrailMarks as a notation returns us back to that root
Allows information processing to go the way of improved articulation capabilities, Structuring for Interpretation
The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
should be eclipsed by the Intent laden Structuring and Articulation of Information for domain/intent specific Interpretations
Perhaps we need to approach it from the other end:
Devise constellations for co-laborative processes that can support the creation and growth of knowledge as mutual learning, symmathesy, where the stigmercgic "trails will never fade"
use word : articulate
articulate a stigmergic conception of social cognition comment :
but leaving out of scope the role of individual articulation the growth of individual knowing through mutual learning symmathesy exhibiting : bias towards cognition/knowledge without the knowing subject#use word : articulate
comment :
= universal modelling machine
= engine of co-creative symmathesy

'cause interpretation is everything
attention and CARE
not the other way round
= claim = Wealth is most essentially knowledge
is =Symmathesy
venues for Sytmergic Mutual Learning (Symmathesy)
Mark the trails you blaze across the Web
with TrailMarks that enables you to designate the subject matter and qualify, characterize, aspectize, operationalie, interpret, contextualize, weaving associative complexes that scaffolds the learning trails, where everything eventually connected in explicitly name meaningful ways
If you would make it People-Centered where each individual/Communities of practice would be their own(ed) hubs operating as Autonomous Actors forming an IndyNet connecting People, Ideas and un-enclosable Tools and carriers that they need so that everything that is shared in the commons or privately would allow trusted ambient conversations, on the margins, or collaboratively, that are continuous without being synchronous, and contiguous with the entire scaffolding with which each participants contributions were erected, Where everything is evergreen,with verifiable provenance and recapitulable histories. Scaling Synthesis and Reach
you would be talking about IndyLab on the IndyWeb
There is a clear convergence present in the design space of possible Open Commons based, Peer-produced "tools to think with, together" to augment human inter-intellect in Open Mutual Learning Commons for Symmathesy an interpersonal MEMEX fort the Web doing the job of organizing the Net's Frontier as the Endless Frontier of Knowledge
all powered by Permanent Hypermedia Protocols noty Platforms allowing the Players to be their own Platforms

!- gloss : programmer's intention
a desire that something be accomplished
what do you really intend here
question : how can we refer to Intentional Software on the |IndyWeb?
Intentional Software through Symmathesy
the software developer's intention is to articulate intentional concepts that capture the conditions for synthesyzing a new HyperMedia Space within which problems of interest can be solved, engagement of interest can be realized etc
The questions are b roader, more holistic system oriented like
!- claim : - missing : Roam Ontologies
!- reply :


!- associative complex :
meta : Deep writing powered by associative thinking
universal concept
auto-heuristic
eigenistics
eigen-heuristics
symmathesy
mutual learning by doing
software is a conversation
wicked problems
reframe
human-centric ways
!- goal : IndyWeb
Everything is a conversation. Symmathesy mutual learning
Software is an Intentional conversation about Intents, with the intent of creating machine support for whatever wee need
We are working to create that new cosmology of Intentional Software on/as the InterPersonal Web we call the IndyWeb, built on top of the Web3 "Convergence Stack "IPFS and other decent(ralized) tech
!- concept : wiki to 'go viral'
!- combine : Fedwiki - with: IndyThreads - on the :IndyWeb

IndyNet + IndyWiki + TrailMarks + MindGraph = conversational wiki
IndyNet + IndyLab + TrailMarks + MindGraph = interpersonal collaborative IndyWeb for Mutual Larning: Symmathersy
Open, commons based peer interpersonal collaboration organizing and makeing sense of the emergent edge of knowledge
Where we as people can create the commons based peer produced evergreen capabilities needed to do so
co-creation through interpersonal conversations that are continuous without being synchronous creating permanent habitable autonomous digital spaces on the IndyWeb and contiguous with each participants MindGraphs along with the very tools needed to improve own(ed) and collective intellect and ability to work together
https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=symmathesy&addQuoteContext=true
where Software becomes Conversation
https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=conversational+wiki&addQuoteContext=true
https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&any=%22software+is+a+conversation%22&addQuoteContext=true

\It is not semantics but symmathesy mutua learning
scaling interpersonal synthesys
https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?thought%20vectors

!- claim : Trailmarks are but thought vectors in concept space
!- care about :
!-,missed out : concepts. mutual learning Symmathesy
!- concept : discourse relationships
plurality of minds
We need to build systems for Augmenting Human Intellect. http://1962paper.org/web.html#annotations:1i1anAwMEeutPrtso0kK7w To realise Engelbart's Dream debuted 60 years ego
Need to figure out how we can "improve the intellectual effectiveness of the individual human being" and build a People Centred internet, the IndyWeb, that works for the people by the people
where each individual can be their own autonomous hub, empowered to weave their own networks of people ideas and pursuits, to engage in deep conversations, mutual learning for the benefit of participants, in trusted but verifiable networks of evergreen Autonomous Ambient Digital Spaces through which all can experience the Web as an extension of their Minds. Create an Open Learning/Doing Commons where
ideas can self-organize, contextualized, their growth is recapitulable and attributable with full provenance not only of contributions but sharing, accelerating co-evolution for Symmathesy.
This way Augmented Human Identity will take care of itself.

Backus's work alongside John Allen's Anatomy of Lisp book discussing Syntax Directed Translation, and Abelson and Sussman's Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs inspired my PhD on "Language-Oriented Programming in Meta-Lisp" at Leeds University.
Revisiting this paper allows me to articulate on the margin the ideas relating to a revival of Simomnyi;s intentional software, based on the recognition that Software is a conversation about intents and a matter of Mutual Learning Symmathesy.
The original motivation for managing complexity by maintaining referential transparency and intellectual manageability over the past two decades, inspired by the works of Douglas Engelbart, Ted Nelson, Alan Kay and Ward Cunningham, evolved into the recognition of the need to developing means that augment the intellectual effectiveness of the individual human being and bootstrap collaboration co-creation of co-evolution of man-computer symbiotic systems.
To the extent that Philosophy's self image is that it is but footnotes to Plato (please insert your all time favourite philosopher of the day, I would say Hegel)
Then clearly the best way to go about doing philosophy must be writings on the margins of the greats and crate new synthesis to which all amounts to. do that in a self-hosting conversations that are continuous, without being synchronous, evergreen, permanent, always re-sumable reusable, remixable re-volutioable, learnable mutual learning symmathesy
Indyweb is a transformative technology ecosystem that can allow each individual in the group to understand the underlying epistemology of social intercourse, dialogue and symmathesy as a lived experience. Each individual in the open source Indyweb network can have a lived and granular experience of how his or her knowledge and wisdom is growing. This is made possible by having a private information repository that collates all the participant's digital interactions. The interpersonal computing environment puts the human INTERbeing at the center of the digital universe and all the participant's data is not stored in fragmented silos across the web, but all in one central, interpersonal and private repository which (s)he has access to. This creates new possibilities of seeing how your understanding grows from one moment to the next, from one social interaction to the next, and how social, collective learning proceeds and is completely entangled with individual learning.
Indyweb makes one's learning, previously unconscious and invisible, visible.
From a Stop Reset Go Deep Humanity perspective, social interactions with greater diversity allows multi-meaningverses to interact and the salience landscape from each conversant can interact. Since each life is unique, the diversity of perspectival knowing allows strengths to overlap weaknesses and different perspectives can yield novelty. The diversity of ideas encounter each other like diversity in a gene pool, evolving more offsprings which may randomly have greater fitness to the environment.
Johari's window is a direct consequence of this diversity of perspectives, this converged multi-meaningverse of the Lebenswelt..
universal reuse is an impossibility
reuse like use is situated pick an adjacent existing delivered use case
instead need to intentionalize conceptualize
symmathesize #Symmathesy Mutual Learning
common "use cases" and do that in a form that is amenable to be tinkered reused and repurposed for future purposes intents as they arise
in any situation there are core intents that are universal
ensure that "data" is captured along with the means of supporting those intents across all conceivable "constellations" for provisioning
ranging from local first, personal first, to in house closed silos to global interplanetary scales open or closed, taking into account delivery platforms desktop mobile metaverse whatever

https://hyp.is/xb0pkOoSEeyRaQudeRD78g/www.linkedin.com/posts/alanmorrisontoday-i-attended-a-thought-provoking-conversation-activity-6940722530403983360-fCeE/?utmsource=linkedinshare&utmmedium=memberdesktopweb
This is an ambition like Descartes' Mathesis Universalis
not to be accomplished by any one man,
And in fact what we are after is a n engine for
https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?symmathesy

communal values
symmathesy
An exploration of the different ways people think could be a really cool and positive tool for evolving toward greater compassion for one another.
Yes compassion for one another. mutual learning Symmathesy https://indylab-2022.fission.app/hyp?symmathesy
The public Indyweb is eminently designed as a public space for holding deep, continuous, asynchronous conversations with provenance. That is, if the partcipant consents to public conversation, ideas can be publicly tracked. Whoever reads your public ideas can be traced.and this paper trail is immutably stored, allowing anyone to see the evolution of ideas in real time.
In theory, this does away with the need for patents and copyrights, as all ideas are traceable to the contributors and each contribution is also known. This allows for the system to embed crowdsourced microfunding, supporting the best (upvoted) ideas to surface.
Participants in the public Indyweb ecosystem are called Indyviduals and each has their own private data hub called an Indyhub. Since Indyweb is interpersonal computing, each person is the center of their indyweb universe. Through the discoverability built into the Indyweb, anything of immediate salience is surfaced to your private hub. No applications can use your data unless you give exact permission on which data to use and how it shall be used. Each user sets the condition for their data usage. Instead of a user's data stored in silos of servers all over the web as is current practice, any data you generate, in conversation, media or data files is immediately accessible on your own Indyhub.
Indyweb supports symmathesy, the exchange of ideas based on an appropriate epistemological model that reflects how human INTERbeings learn as a dynamic interplay between individual and collective learning. Furthermore, all data that participants choose to share is immutably stored on content addressable web3 storage forever. It is not concentrated on any server but the data is stored on the entire IPFS network:
"IPFS works through content adddressibility. It is a peer-to-peer (p2p) storage network. Content is accessible through peers located anywhere in the world, that might relay information, store it, or do both. IPFS knows how to find what you ask for using its content address rather than its location.
There are three fundamental principles to understanding IPFS:
Unique identification via content addressing Content linking via directed acyclic graphs (DAGs) Content discovery via distributed hash tables (DHTs)" (Source: https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/how-ipfs-works/)
The privacy, scalability, discoverability, public immutability and provenance of the public Indyweb makes it ideal for supporting hyperconversations that emerge tomorrows collectively emergent solutions. It is based on the principles of thought augmentation developed by computer industry pioneers such as Doug Englebart and Ted Nelson who many decades earlier in their prescience foresaw the need for computing tools to augment thought and provide the ability to form Network Improvement Communities (NIC) to solve a new generation of complex human challenges.
The public Indyweb, which supports symmathesy, deep conversation, adjacent association space and private as well as publicly owned data can have a force multiplier effect by massive amounts of discoverable knowledge. If knowledge is what constrains good decisions, then discoverability of salient knowledge can lead to better decisions and better actions.
Incorporating a cascading, iterative, recursive Social Tipping Point (STP) strategy is also highly salient and can accelerate the viral spread of scalable system change through the global population.
discourse graph
human synthesys
effective synthesis
prudent move to avoid stating synthesis of what, clearly knowledge won't do, even understanding is too limited. Symmathesy would be broad and appropriate enough but intoducing the concept itself is non -trivivila just saying mutual learning mway not suffice
holding together
4 IndyWeb
name it
the word matters
narrowing our ability

beyond Semantics: Mutual Learning symmathesy
and it ceased to be a semantic angine it will be an angine for symmathesy
meaning/intent/salience
ideas as in ...
Semantic is just a deeply limiting conception
More important is Symmathesy (mutual learning) and articulating your tacit subsidiary awareness by capturing the insistent intent
connections as we write right on the page where we are writing to think and link
ex(plicate!ternalize) your indyvidual intellect share and collaborate to form externalization of commons based peer produced inter intellect
Add in line plain text mark in notation we call TrailMarks the mark the trails in your thinking with contextualizing clues, listicles of content and other clues. (add in line clues using TrailMarks mark
The above has been more aspirational at the time then delivered. We did not have the words for it, but we were aiming to support (Mind)Graph based open research, mutual learning commons: symmathesy. WikiNizer Research had worked well in a Personal context. The Graph Model only supported propositional trails. Having experimented with turning this paper into propositional trails taught us that is just not the way togo. Needed instead to figure out how to capture and co-evolve salience and deep provanance in HyperMaps of Meaning, that are the territory of emergent inter extellect that can augment inter inter intellect. Realized that we need to go beyond that.
Needed to invent a new way of conceptualizing graphs as MindGraph by designing a new mark-in notation we call TrailMarks a way to in-notate HTML Hypermedia to create and trails of all kinds: annotation, presentation, effective conceptualizations, intents and anything else any cone think of that serves their purpose

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symmathesy
networked learning environments
from LinkedIn comment epicycles of annotations upon comments and annotations
At the Edge of Knowl'edge
Human Interbeings inter(Articulate|pret) Tacit Awareness loitering with Intent

Symmathesy
John Alan in the Anatamoy of Lisp wrote: The advantage of high level languages is
rather than
what this leads to if you take the long term view and take the long view and treat all engagement in building systems as an opportunity for mutual learning
and insist that a full, personally attributable trail of provenance is maintained and recapitualted on conceptually clarifying inter personal Mind Graph to capture all associated learning
by capturint the intertwingularity of concepts as we seek to render them effective instead of redoing things we need to seek opportinities to resume work always in a state where the most advanced distilled understanding can be borught to mind as needed
Graphics does need updating Add Web 3 protocols based on DHTs protocols like IPFS, IPLD
So much to say here, no time
Web 3 brings Named Data Networks to the Web
Content addressability means that the Network is the Database, and in fact is the InterNet of Autonomous Ambient InterPersonal Intentional Software (as a conversation) and Symmathesy Mutual Learning
Actually Web 4 is that!
https://hyp.is/xFObQprCEeyEJ2VNolGuA/www.reddit.com/r/holochain/comments/n9glca/holochainvstheinternetcomputerprotocol/

how could communities share their learning
symmathesy across communities
If you get your conceptualization of the problem/task at hand right solutions will take of themselves.
Getting to such cooncepts is a matter of Symmathesy Mutual Learning
synthesizing thinking throught writing
and collaboration
mutual learning symmathesy

https://twitter.com/TrailMarks/status/1449991950690623490
The IndieVerse will do the job of people-sourcing a better maps of understanding the Web frontier by combining a people-centered autonomous spontaneously emergent InterPlanetary InterPersonal network connecting people via shared interests to ideas true Symmathesy
meta : and here is an example of annnotating the annotations
for : The Endless Frontier
of all Human endevour not just science but Life, the Universe and Everthing where Man IS the measure of Everthing
https://hyp.is/JecjXmx7EeyEj2Mvtq0ZjA/www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/nsf50/vbush1945.htm
The IndieVerse will do the job of people-sourcing a better maps of understanding the Web frontier by combining a people-centered autonomous spontaneously emergent InterPlanetary InterPersonal network connecting people via shared interests to ideas true Symmathesy
meta : and here is an example of annnotating the annotations
for : The Endless Frontier
of all Human endevour not just science but Life, the Universe and Everthing where Man IS the measure of Everthing
Human Progress
https://hyp.is/JecjXmx7EeyEj2Mvtq0ZjA/www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/nsf50/vbush1945.htm
not decontectualized nwutered, homogonized distorted claimed to be objective knowledge
https://hyp.is/nxIVuu4lEeuccMhMyrSeg/www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VHsrz0kfc
Collective problem solving

we need founders and funders whose sole agenda is to create, share the constellations that embody, by construction, core values of commons based peer production, extensibility, tinkerabality autnonomy of all participants to roll their own everything
makeit easy to emulate compelling to do.
Unenclosable, built from trust for trust.
Full provenance and dynamic shared symmathesy
creating a habitable world like LISP and SmallTalk and HyperCard is the wholly grail. Could it be done without landing with an image.
Can we have intentional transparency? Create software as a conversation. Symmathesy! I know it can be done.
Can it be done in a way that (re)presents ideas as evolution so that self-aware versions can be cultivated?
And of course make it born interopearble,

keybase://chat/complexweekend.public#explore-symmathesy/12

a fith scenario: The IndieVerse
Share P2P dynamics but Flip Netarchical Capital: give control over
value creators benefit first.
render boundaryless mobilization at scale possible
Symmathesy = Software/Knowledge Commons
The project is related to a word coined by Nora Bateson in her article, symmathesy-a-word-in-progress/">Symmathesy: A Word in Progress.
the widom stack implements symmathesy
https://hypothes.is/a/uF6hPaYEeuEfvAXJ5DFg

I would venture to say Everything I care about is a conversation for Symmathesy mutual learning
Software is a conversation
What we need is the ability to
contextualize conversations in curated context associative complexes of ideas, knowledge for knowledge synthesis
and expand curated context with further conversations aimed at interpersonal knowledge synthesis and sharing
and of course everything gets two way meaningful/intentful two way links
symbolic unity
Im Englischen "symmathesy". Jessitron (Entwicklerin) beschreibt sich selbst als "symmathesist", also als einen Akteur innerhalb dieser Einheit. Im Kontext der Softwareentwicklung finde ich den Begriff sehr spannend und passend. Auch die entwickelte Software ist Teil dieser Einheit, denn auch sie lernt und wächst. Im Idealfall zumindest ;)
Mehr Details dazu auch unter https://blog.atomist.com/the-origins-of-opera-and-the-future-of-programming/
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the rapid learning network is implementing symmathesy
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evolution interrelationality parts and whole misleading
Nora Bateson mututla learning within living contexts
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"Symmathesy (Noun): An entity composed by contextual mutual learning through interaction. This process of interaction and mutual learning takes place in living entities at larger or smaller scales of symmathesy.
Symmathesy (Verb): to interact within multiple variables to produce a mutual learning context." (https://norabateson.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/symmathesy-a-word-in-progress/)
